The Survivors Podcast
Survival isn’t just about staying alive—it’s about finding the strength to rebuild, reclaim, and rise.
That’s the foundation of The Survivors Podcast, where three-time suicide loss survivor, author, crisis counselor, and mental health advocate Lisa Sugarman joins Natasha J. Layton—a multiple suicide attempt and loss survivor, advocate, sexual abuse survivor, and former member of the FLDS polygamy cult—to change the way we talk about suicide, survival, and mental health.
Through raw, unfiltered conversations, Lisa and Natasha explore the realities of surviving trauma, grief, abuse, mental illness, and everything in between—with honesty, hope, and humanity. Their unique perspectives—one shaped by profound loss, the other by unimaginable adversity—create a space where the hardest stories are told with compassion, courage, and vulnerability.
By opening up the conversations we’ve been taught to bury, The Survivors invites listeners into a safe, stigma-free community to reflect, connect, and heal. Together, Lisa and Natasha push past stigma, challenge everything we think we know about survival, and reveal that life after darkness can be filled with meaning, connection, and hope.
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Episodes
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
In this episode of The Survivors Podcast, Lisa and Gretchen get candid about caregiver burnout—the exhaustion, guilt, and compassion fatigue that often accompany supporting others. Together, they explore personal stories, lessons learned, and practical ways to take care of yourself while caring for someone else.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here: YouTube: @TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🌟 Episode Summary
Being a caregiver is one of the greatest acts of love—but it can also take a massive toll on your body, mind, and heart. In this conversation, Lisa and Gretchen talk openly about the reality of burnout: the warning signs, the weight of empathy, and the guilt that often keeps caregivers from putting themselves first. They share deeply personal experiences of caring for loved ones, navigating grief, and rediscovering boundaries. The episode closes with practical steps you can take to protect your energy, prioritize self-care, and remind yourself that you are not alone on this journey.
💡 Lessons Learned
Burnout is more than just being tired—it can show up as irritability, withdrawal, compassion fatigue, or even physical illness.
Self-care is not indulgent; it’s survival. Whether it’s a nap, a boundary, or asking for help, it matters.
Breaking big challenges into smaller, manageable parts can ease overwhelm and help you move forward.
Boundaries aren’t selfish—they’re an act of love for yourself and for those you support.
No one is meant to caregive alone—support systems, therapy, and community are essential.
⏱️ Chapters
00:00 – Trigger Warning & Introduction01:20 – Caregiving as an Act of Love (and Exhaustion)04:00 – Lisa’s Story: Growing Up as a Caregiver06:20 – Gretchen’s Story: Empathy, Anxiety, and Caregiving Burnout08:00 – Signs of Burnout Beyond “Tired”10:30 – Overwhelm and the Power of Focusing on One Thing13:40 – The Weight of Guilt and Self-Care Myths17:00 – Defining Self-Care and Boundaries20:00 – The Importance of Asking for Help21:30 – Supporting Others Through Grief and Loss24:00 – Boundaries as the Key to Healing26:00 – Final Takeaways: Warning Signs, Self-Love, and Support Systems28:30 – Closing Reflections & Season Finale Tease
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
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🎙️ See You Next Week! Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser #SchoserTalentandWellnessSolutions #TheHelpHUB
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
In this powerful episode, Lisa and Gretchen unpack the complex relationship between social media and suicide prevention. From uplifting connections to harmful comparisons, they explore how our digital spaces can either support or sabotage mental health.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ This episode is proudly brought to you by Schoser Talent and Wellness SolutionsStruggling with employee burnout, high turnover, or clunky onboarding processes? Feeling overwhelmed by change or unsure how to support your team’s mental health in the workplace? You’re not alone.Welcome to Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions—your all-in-one partner for building healthier, more resilient organizations.At Schoser Solutions, we blend decades of expertise in talent strategy, employee wellness, and HR technology to help small and mid-sized businesses thrive.We specialize in optimizing UKG Recruiting and Onboarding systems—transforming how you attract, hire, and welcome new talent—while offering custom-built mental wellness programs, stress management toolkits, and change readiness assessments.Whether you're navigating rapid growth or simply want better support for your employees' well-being, we meet you where you are—with practical tools, strategic insight, and a deeply human approach.Because when your systems run smoothly and your people feel supported, everyone wins.🌐 Visit https://schosersolutions.com today.💙 Because your mental well-being matters. 💙
🔍 Episode Summary:
In this insightful episode, Lisa and Gretchen take a raw, honest look at the powerful impact of social media on mental health and suicide prevention. They share personal reflections, hard-earned wisdom, and actionable advice on how to curate your feed, build boundaries, and use your digital world to lift yourself—and others—up.
They discuss how social media can offer connection, comfort, and resources for those struggling, while also being a space of misinformation, comparison culture, cyberbullying, and emotional overwhelm. With stories, strategies, and humor, they help listeners navigate the digital landscape with intention and self-compassion.
✨ Lessons Learned:
You control your feed—mute, unfollow, block, or snooze anything that doesn’t serve your well-being.
Not everything online is therapy—real support comes from real connection, not chatbots or AI-based advice.
Boundaries = self-love—setting digital boundaries is one of the most powerful acts of self-care.
Comparison is a thief of joy—don’t measure your worth by curated highlight reels.
Hope is contagious—share content that inspires, uplifts, and supports.
⏱️ Episode Chapters:
0:00 – Intro & Lisa’s Graphic Tee Era1:00 – Why Social Media Deserves a Mental Health Conversation3:00 – Compassion Fatigue & Conscious Posting5:30 – Online Kindness: The Power & Harm of Words9:30 – Influencers, Comparison Culture, and Teen Vulnerability13:20 – Finding Comfort in the Feed14:00 – Safe Virtual Communities for Survivors16:30 – UKG Recruiting & Onboarding Tools (Schoser Ad Segment)18:00 – Curate Your Space With Intention20:30 – Funny Animal Videos: The Joy in Simple Content22:00 – Boundaries Online and Offline24:00 – Digital Detox & No-Phone Zones26:00 – Where You Get Your News Matters28:00 – Final Thoughts: Post With Purpose, Set One New Boundary30:00 – Wrap-Up: You Are Enough 💜
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser #SchoserTalentandWellnessSolutions #TheHelpHUB
Wednesday Sep 10, 2025
Wednesday Sep 10, 2025
In this moving episode released on World Suicide Prevention Day, Gretchen and Lisa open up about the global crisis of suicide and its far-reaching ripple effects on families, communities, and cultures. Together, they share survivor stories, lessons from around the world, and practical ways we can each be part of prevention and healing.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
Episode Summary
This week’s conversation honors World Suicide Prevention Day with a heartfelt exploration of how suicide affects every culture, every community, and every family. Gretchen shares her personal survival story, Lisa reflects on her own losses, and together they challenge the stigma around saying the word suicide out loud. From the devastating statistics—over 700,000 lives lost each year and more than 94 million left grieving—to the simple yet powerful actions like sharing stories, holding space, and posting the 988 Lifeline, this episode reminds us that prevention starts with awareness and compassion.
Lessons Learned
Suicide is a universal crisis that transcends race, religion, and geography.
Every loss to suicide impacts at least 135 people, creating waves of grief and trauma.
Open, honest conversations about suicide reduce shame and isolation.
Small actions—sharing a story, posting resources, volunteering, or checking in on someone—can save lives.
Compassion, connection, and collective responsibility are essential to changing the narrative.
Chapters
00:00 – Trigger warning & opening thoughts
01:13 – Why World Suicide Prevention Day matters
04:15 – The global impact of suicide and the ripple effect
07:04 – Survivor guilt, shame, and the importance of opening up
10:00 – Cultural differences in prevention and awareness
13:39 – Communities, resources, and raising awareness
15:27 – Using social media as a prevention tool
17:36 – How sharing personal stories reduces stigma
18:45 – The radiator metaphor: releasing heavy thoughts
20:58 – Learning from global practices
22:26 – Volunteering, advocacy, and journaling for reflection
24:23 – Changing the narrative one conversation at a time
25:14 – Suicide prevention as a shared human responsibility
26:06 – Closing reflections & reminders
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ See You Next Week! Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser #SchoserTalentandWellnessSolutions #TheHelpHUB
Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
In this candid episode, Lisa and Gretchen reunite to mark National Suicide Prevention Month with an unfiltered conversation about the realities of mental health struggles. Together, they explore the power of connection, the critical importance of vulnerability, and how small acts, like a text, a call, or asking “How are you really?”—can literally save a life.
Episode Description:In honor of Suicide Prevention Month, Lisa and Gretchen dig into what it really means to take action—not just spread awareness—when it comes to saving lives. With compassion, lived experience, and hard-won wisdom, they explore how empathy, connection, and vulnerability can change the course of someone’s tomorrow.
Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
This episode is proudly brought to you by Schoser Talent and Wellness SolutionsStruggling with employee burnout, high turnover, or clunky onboarding processes? Feeling overwhelmed by change or unsure how to support your team’s mental health in the workplace? You’re not alone. Welcome to Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions—your all-in-one partner for building healthier, more resilient organizations.👉 Visit: https://schosersolutions.com
Episode Lessons & Key Takeaways:
Awareness is not enough—action saves lives.
Connection is protection. A text, call, or check-in can be life-changing.
Take off the mask. Vulnerability isn’t weakness—it's healing.
Reframe the narrative. Practice positive self-talk and challenge shame.
You are not alone. The 988 Lifeline and countless resources are here for you.
Baby steps count. Healing doesn’t happen overnight—but it starts with one brave step.
Chapters:
0:00 – Intro & Sponsor: Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions1:06 – Why Suicide Prevention Month Matters3:44 – Powerful Stats that Demand Action5:24 – Gretchen’s Story: The Call that Changed Her Life7:06 – Connection as a Lifeline10:32 – How to Support Others (and Ourselves)14:41 – Break the Cycle: Speak Up, Share, Support18:25 – Positive Self Talk & Therapy Tools22:08 – Prioritizing Yourself Without Guilt25:26 – The Call to Action: Reach Out, Check In27:39 – Final Words: Baby Steps, Always Forward30:20 – Outro: You Are Enough 💜
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser #SchoserTalentandWellnessSolutions #TheHelpHUB
Wednesday Aug 27, 2025
Wednesday Aug 27, 2025
In this heartfelt episode of The Survivors Podcast, Lisa and Gretchen explore how rituals help us stay connected after suicide loss. Together, they share personal practices, lessons learned, and ways to honor loved ones while continuing to heal.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ Episode Sponsored by TheHelpHUbB.coThis episode is proudly brought to you by TheHelpHUB.co.
Struggling with your mental health? Feeling lost, overwhelmed, or just… alone? Well, you're not. Welcome to TheHelpHUB—your online destination for mental health resources, content, and tools to help you navigate whatever mental health challenges you face.
At The HelpHUB, we offer individualized resources tailored to your unique needs and community, with over 16 different categories to find exactly the kind of personalized help you need when you need it most. Even though we all deal with many of the same challenges, we don’t always experience those struggles the same way.
So, we've got you whether you're looking for crisis support, downloadable resources, or an extensive archive of mental health-related articles and videos. From episodes of The Survivors Podcast for suicide loss survivors and lived-experience blogs to interactive tools and professional connections, The Help Hub meets you where you are—and helps you move forward with strength and support. Remember, you don’t have to do this alone. Visit https://www.thehelphub.co today.💙 Because your mental well-being matters. 💙
Episode Summary
This week, Lisa and Gretchen dive into the importance of grief rituals after suicide loss. From writing letters to lighting candles, from laughing at memories to acts of kindness, they discuss how rituals can ground us, create connection, and bring meaning to the healing journey. Together, they remind us that there’s no “right” way to grieve—only the ways that feel authentic to you.
Lessons Learned
Rituals don’t have to be big or formal—they can be quiet, personal, and deeply meaningful.
Staying connected through rituals provides comfort and structure in the chaos of grief.
Healing is not linear—patience, grace, and small intentional acts matter.
Writing to your past or future self can be a powerful way to reflect and grow.
Community and shared practices make grief a little less heavy when carried together.
Chapters
00:00 – Introduction & Sponsor Message01:19 – Why Rituals Matter After Suicide Loss02:46 – Gretchen’s Story: Surviving & Celebrating Life04:11 – Personal Rituals That Bring Connection07:10 – Finding Rhythm in Grief09:53 – Writing Letters to the Past, Present, & Future13:22 – The Power of Daily Rituals in Healing15:19 – Taking It One Day at a Time17:31 – Rituals as Anchors Through Grief22:13 – Building Community Through Shared Rituals23:52 – Honoring Growth & Survival24:46 – No “Right” Way to Grieve26:14 – Closing Reflections & Resources
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
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🎙️ See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser
Wednesday Aug 20, 2025
Wednesday Aug 20, 2025
This episode dives into the transformative power of therapy and support groups when navigating the grief of suicide loss or surviving a suicide attempt. Hosts Lisa Sugarman and Gretchen Schoser open up about their personal experiences and highlight the safe, accessible mental health resources that help us keep moving forward—even on our hardest days.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:
👉 https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ Episode Sponsored by TheHelpHUB.co
This episode is proudly brought to you by TheHelpHUB.co
Struggling with your mental health? Feeling lost, overwhelmed, or just… alone? Well, you're not. Welcome to TheHelpHUB—your online destination for mental health resources, content, and tools to help you navigate whatever mental health challenges you face.
At TheHelpHUB.co, we offer individualized resources tailored to your unique needs and community, with over 16 different categories to find exactly the kind of personalized help you need when you need it most. Even though we all deal with many of the same challenges, we don’t always experience those struggles the same way.
So, we've got you whether you're looking for crisis support, downloadable resources, or an extensive archive of mental health-related articles and videos. From episodes of The Survivors Podcast for suicide loss survivors and lived-experience blogs to interactive tools and professional connections, The Help Hub meets you where you are—and helps you move forward with strength and support.
💙 You don’t have to do this alone. Visit https://www.thehelphub.co today. 💙
📖 Episode Summary
In this raw and compassionate conversation, Lisa and Gretchen open up about the vital roles therapy and support groups have played in their healing journeys. They discuss how community spaces like SafePlace and online support networks are life-changing for those navigating the complex, isolating grief of suicide loss or the aftermath of an attempt. With humor, honesty, and wisdom, they offer listeners hope and guidance for finding the help they deserve.
🧠 Lessons Learned
Suicide loss and suicide attempt grief are complex and uniquely isolating.
Therapy and support groups offer more than healing—they provide safety, validation, and community.
You don’t need to talk to benefit; just being in the room can be transformational.
Free and low-cost mental health resources exist and are accessible online and in person.
Support is self-care, and healing starts when you allow yourself to receive it.
⏱️ Episode Chapters
00:00 – Sponsored by TheHelpHUB + Trigger Warning01:20 – Why Suicide Grief Hits Differently03:00 – Finding Community in Support Groups07:00 – The Power of Talking It Out10:50 – How Therapy Changes the Game13:00 – Breaking the Stigma: Living with the Truth16:15 – What Support Feels Like for Suicide Attempt Survivors19:10 – Therapy as Radical Self-Care22:30 – Accessing Free & Affordable Mental Health Support26:00 – What to Expect from Your First Therapy Session28:00 – Group Support: Healing Through Shared Stories30:00 – Final Reflections & Hope for the Healing Journey
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether#PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief#Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser
Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
In this heartfelt episode of The Survivors Podcast, Lisa and Gretchen delve into the simple yet powerful wellness habits that keep us grounded, especially when life feels overwhelming. From gratitude practices and breathing techniques to setting boundaries and rediscovering joy, they share practical, achievable ways to nurture your mental, emotional, and physical well-being.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ Episode Sponsored by TheHelpHUbB.coThis episode is proudly brought to you by TheHelpHUB.co – your online destination for mental health resources, content, and tools to help you navigate whatever mental health challenges you face.
Struggling with your mental health? Feeling lost, overwhelmed, or just… alone? Well, you're not. At The HelpHUB, you’ll find individualized resources tailored to your unique needs, with over 16 different categories to help you get exactly the support you need when you need it most.
Whether you’re looking for crisis support, downloadable resources, or an extensive archive of mental health articles and videos, The HelpHUB is here for you. From episodes of The Survivors Podcast for suicide loss survivors to interactive tools and professional connections, we meet you where you are—and help you move forward with strength and support.
💙 Because your mental well-being matters. 💙Visit: https://www.thehelphub.co
Episode Summary
August is National Wellness Month, but Lisa and Gretchen remind us that wellness isn’t something we practice once a year—it’s a daily commitment to our mental, emotional, and physical well-being. They talk about how gratitude, mindful breathing, better sleep habits, setting boundaries, and reconnecting with joy can be life-saving tools during grief and heavy seasons. With stories from their own lives, they show how even small, consistent practices can help us regulate our nervous systems, protect our energy, and keep moving forward—one day, one moment at a time.
Lessons Learned in This Episode:
Gratitude is a mindset shift – Even in deep grief, small moments of gratitude can keep us grounded.
Wellness isn’t fancy—it’s consistent – Simple habits like journaling, breathing exercises, and mindful breaks have a big impact over time.
Boundaries are protective, not selfish – Saying “no” creates space for your own healing and priorities.
Joy and grief can coexist – Moments of play and laughter are powerful tools for mental health.
Connection matters – Small acts like using someone’s name or checking in can boost both your mood and theirs.
Chapters:
00:00 – Episode Open & Trigger Warning00:37 – National Wellness Month: What It Really Means02:01 – Why Gratitude Works (Even in Grief)04:19 – Simple Wellness Habits That Last07:27 – Mind-Body Connection During Grief08:41 – Breathing Exercises That Calm Your Nervous System09:59 – Using Technology for Mindfulness & Sleep11:22 – Avoiding All-or-Nothing Thinking in Self-Care14:08 – Nature as a Wellness Tool15:37 – Human Connection & Boosting Serotonin16:34 – Boundaries: Saying Yes to Yourself20:36 – Digital Detox & Reclaiming Your Time22:36 – Reconnecting with Your Inner Child23:57 – Joy & Grief Can Coexist24:22 – Wellness as a 365-Day Commitment25:44 – Final Thoughts & Encouragement
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us
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🎙️ See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser
Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
In this raw and emotional episode, Lisa and Gretchen unpack the deep and often misunderstood feeling of guilt that follows suicide loss and suicide attempts. Through vulnerable storytelling and insight, they show how guilt can be reframed into grace, healing, and renewed strength.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ Episode Sponsored by TheHelpHUbB.coThis episode is proudly brought to you by TheHelpHUB.coStruggling with your mental health? Feeling lost, overwhelmed, or just… alone? Well, you're not. Welcome to TheHelpHUB—your online destination for mental health resources, content, and tools to help you navigate whatever mental health challenges you face.
At The HelpHUB, we offer individualized resources tailored to your unique needs and community, with over 16 different categories to find exactly the kind of personalized help you need when you need it most.
From suicide loss survivor content to lived-experience blogs, interactive tools, and professional support, The Help Hub meets you where you are—and helps you move forward.💙 Because your mental well-being matters. 💙
📝 Episode Summary:Lisa and Gretchen dive into one of the most unspoken emotional burdens after suicide loss and survival—guilt. They offer two different yet equally powerful perspectives: Lisa as someone who lost loved ones to suicide and Gretchen as a suicide attempt survivor. Together, they explore the complexity of this emotion, share personal stories, and offer practical, compassionate tools for reframing guilt into healing.
💡 Lessons Learned:
Guilt after suicide loss or attempt is common, but not always justified.
Naming your guilt and processing it out loud or through writing can release its grip.
Support systems, therapy, and peer connection are key to healing.
Survivor stories help others feel seen, heard, and less alone.
Grace and self-forgiveness are essential parts of recovery.
⏱️ Episode Chapters:00:00 – Introduction & Trigger Warning01:14 – Understanding the Weight of Guilt03:00 – Gretchen’s Story: The Attempt, Silence, and Shame06:29 – Reframing Weakness as Strength08:45 – The Impact of Guilt on Loved Ones13:37 – Lisa’s Experience as a Survivor of Suicide Loss18:36 – What It Feels Like in a Moment of Crisis20:00 – Writing Letters to Heal22:11 – “Fact-Check” Your Guilt23:14 – Journaling as Therapy24:56 – The Power of Talking to Other Survivors26:32 – The Lifesaving Role of Therapy28:44 – Final Reflections: You Are Not Alone
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support:🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
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🎙️ See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
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Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
What happens when the truth about a loved one’s suicide is revealed decades later? In this profoundly moving episode, Lisa opens up about her own story of “grieving in reverse” after learning that her father's death wasn’t what she had believed for 35 years.
🎥 Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here:👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎙️ This episode is proudly brought to you by Schoser Talent and Wellness SolutionsStruggling with employee burnout, high turnover, or clunky onboarding processes? Feeling overwhelmed by change or unsure how to support your team’s mental health in the workplace? You’re not alone.
Welcome to Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions—your all-in-one partner for building healthier, more resilient organizations. At Schoser Solutions, we blend decades of expertise in talent strategy, employee wellness, and HR technology to help small and mid-sized businesses thrive.
We specialize in optimizing UKG Recruiting and Onboarding systems—transforming the way you attract, hire, and welcome new talent—while also offering custom-built mental wellness programs, stress management toolkits, and change readiness assessments.
Whether you're navigating rapid growth, organizational change, or looking to better support your employees' mental well-being, we meet you where you are—with practical tools, strategic insight, and a deeply human approach.Because when your systems run smoothly and your people feel supported, everyone wins.💻 Visit: https://schosersolutions.com
💙 Because your mental well-being matters. 💙
🧠 Episode Summary:
Lisa shares the painful and profoundly personal journey of discovering the truth about her father's death—35 years after it happened. What follows is a raw conversation about “grieving in reverse,” processing hidden trauma, and the courage to reframe our grief through radical acceptance and truth-telling.
🔍 Lessons Learned:
The truth, even when delayed, has healing power.
There is no expiration date on grief—or the right time to begin healing.
Suicide is not a selfish act, but often the result of untreated mental illness.
Rebuilding your narrative can help you honor your past and your future.
Vulnerability fosters connection—and storytelling saves lives.
⏱️ Chapters:
00:00 – Trigger Warning & Opening01:10 – What is “Grieving in Reverse”?03:30 – Lisa’s Story: A Life Changed by One Conversation07:50 – The Impact of Delayed Truth13:00 – High Functioning Depression & Missed Signs16:00 – Therapy, Support, and Letting Yourself Feel19:15 – Rebuilding the Narrative After Loss24:00 – Honoring a Loved One’s Legacy26:05 – If I Could Talk to My Dad Now…28:30 – Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts31:00 – Help Is Always Available
📚 Resources for Mental Health & Support🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
📲 Follow & Connect With Us📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🗳️ A Shameless Plug for Our Sister Podcast!Our incredible sister podcast, Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads, has been nominated for two People's Choice Podcast Awards—the Adam Curry Award and the Health Award! 🏆Let’s help them bring it home! Here's how:👉 Go to https://www.podcastawards.com👉 Register with a valid email address (they do verify emails)👉 Vote for Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads in both categories🗓️ Deadline to vote is July 31st, 2025Thank you for supporting their powerful mission to normalize mental health conversations through raw, real, and relatable storytelling!
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🎙️ See You Next Week! Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
In this powerful episode of The Survivors, Lisa and Gretchen unpack the complex, emotional aftermath of losing someone to suicide. They speak from personal experience—offering raw insight, practical support, and the crucial reminder that healing begins with conversation.
Watch the Video Podcast on YouTube:A video version of this episode is available here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
This episode is proudly brought to you by Schoser Talent and Wellness SolutionsStruggling with employee burnout, high turnover, or clunky onboarding processes? Feeling overwhelmed by change or unsure how to support your team’s mental health in the workplace? You’re not alone. Welcome to Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions—your all-in-one partner for building healthier, more resilient organizations.
At Schoser Solutions, we blend decades of expertise in talent strategy, employee wellness, and HR technology to help small and mid-sized businesses thrive. We specialize in optimizing UKG Recruiting and Onboarding systems—transforming the way you attract, hire, and welcome new talent—while also offering custom-built mental wellness programs, stress management toolkits, and change readiness assessments.
Whether you're navigating rapid growth, organizational change, or looking to better support your employees' mental well-being, we meet you where you are—with practical tools, strategic insight, and a deeply human approach.
Because when your systems run smoothly and your people feel supported, everyone wins. Visit https://schosersolutions.com today.
You don’t have to figure it all out alone—we’ve got you.💙Because your mental well-being matters. 💙
Episode Summary
Lisa and Gretchen dive deep into the emotional toll of suicide loss—a grief experience unlike any other. They share their personal stories, explore common reactions like guilt, anger, isolation, and PTSD, and talk about how societal stigma compounds the pain. Together, they break down what to say, what not to say, and how to truly show up for survivors of suicide loss. If you've ever lost someone this way or are supporting someone who has, this episode is a lifeline.
Lessons Learned
Suicide loss grief carries unique emotions—shame, blame, anger, and stigma.
Survivors often don’t recognize they’re trauma survivors, but therapy can reframe the experience.
People often don’t know how to support a suicide loss survivor, making the grief even more isolating.
Simple, direct support like saying the person’s name or offering to walk the dog can make a huge difference.
Avoid harmful clichés; instead, listen without judgment and hold space for real emotion.
Episode Chapters
00:00 – Trigger Warning & Welcome01:00 – Why Suicide Grief Is Different04:00 – Guilt, Anger, and the Blame Game07:00 – The Stigma of Silence09:00 – Recognizing Trauma and PTSD12:00 – Social Withdrawal After Suicide Loss16:00 – Supporting Survivors in Their Grief19:00 – What to Say (and Not to Say)22:00 – Four Ways to Show Up for Someone in Grief26:00 – Resources, Support, and Final Reflections28:00 – Closing Words of Hope
Resources for Mental Health & Support
🔹 The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/🔹 The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/🔹 Schoser Talent and Wellness Solutions – Mental wellness coaching & support – https://schosersolutions.com/🔹 Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads – A raw, award-winning mental health podcast – https://goesoninourheads.net/
🔹 Safe Place Virtual Support Group for Survivors of Suicide Loss facilitated by Samaritans Southcoast https://www.samaritanssoco.org/i-lost-someone-to-suicide
Follow & Connect With Us
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
A Shameless Plug for Our Sister Podcast!
Our incredible sister podcast, Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads, has been nominated for two People's Choice Podcast Awards—the Adam Curry Award and the Health Award! 🏆Let’s help them bring it home!👉 Vote here: https://www.podcastawards.com👉 Register with a valid email address (they do verify emails)👉 Vote for Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads in both categories🗓️ Deadline to vote is July 31st, 2025Thank you for supporting their powerful mission to normalize mental health conversations through raw, real, and relatable storytelling!
#TheSurvivorsPodcast #EndTheStigma #MentalHealthMatters #SuicidePrevention #YouAreNotAlone #BreakTheSilence #GriefSupport #988Lifeline #SurvivorStories #HealingTogether #PodMatch #MentalHealth #SuicideAwareness #Podcast #Community #Hope #Grief #Stigma #MentalIllness #Support #LisaSugarman #GretchenSchoser #SchoserTalentandWellnessSolutions #TheHelpHUB
See You Next Week!Stay strong, keep going, and remember: You are enough. 💜